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Don't Count Leno Out
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With his ratings tanking, critics and competitors smell blood. But the hardest-working comic—who knows few bounds to defeat the competition, including spying—has always had the last laugh.
The trade press and the television critics have never had much use for Jay Leno, in contrast to their periodic bursts of adulation for his former late-night rival at CBS, David Letterman, and his Tonight Show replacement, Conan O’Brien. Life isn’t fair. Leno long ago made his peace with that reality.
But now that NBC’s prime-time Jay Leno Show has been on air for seven weeks at 10 p.m. and found wanting (if not by cheerleading NBC executives, then by almost everyone else), the elite media schadenfreude can’t be pleasant.
It’s difficult to make lemonade out of Leno’s sour ratings, an anemic average of 1.6 last week in the all-important 18-to-49 demographic—that is, 1.6 percent of the nation’s 18-to-49-year-olds and a full ratings point below the performance of last year’s scripted drama shows that aired in the same time slot. It’s barely enough for NBC to turn a profit. “We need a 1.5 to make money, so we’re ahead of that,” a network spokesperson argues brightly. Yet Leno has been losing to re-runs of CSI.
“So far he’s holding his own—and this is a very long-term commitment,” says an analyst. “I prefer to look at the glass as half-full.””
There was an element of near-sadistic glee in Broadcasting & Cable’s just-released Q&A with the embattled talk show host, in which interviewer Ben Grossman assaulted Leno with at least four variations on the question: Don’t you just hate yourself for participating in this utter fiasco?
When Leno remained calm and patiently, repeatedly, rebutted the premise—“I think it's too soon to say whether I regret anything or not,” he said, quite reasonably, at one point—his tormenter scoffed: “You know I don't believe a word you are saying, right?”
At this point in a courtroom cross-examination, the judge would admonish the prosecutor to stop badgering the witness.
But Leno, at 59, is made of sterner stuff.
“I always had this image of Jay,” his wife Mavis once told me, “as the guy in the rearview mirror. I actually sit here laughing at this—first he’s a speck, then he’s a little bigger, and then this guy in the mirror is alongside and in the passing lane. Then the other guy is in the rearview mirror.”
Leno himself reflected: “I’m one of those people who always has to touch bottom before I start going up, just to get a sense of perspective.”
Now that November sweeps are under way, Leno is getting more perspective than even he bargained for. The press is squawking and some of NBC’s affiliates are quaking—their jangled nerves only temporarily soothed by charm-offensive phone calls from Jay himself, coaxing and wheedling station general managers, worried about the lead-in to their local news, urging them to stick with him and things will get better—just like they did in the old days when Jay took The Tonight Show from also-ran to No. 1.
What’s more, it’s unclear how Leno’s show might fare after NBC Universal’s expected acquisition by Comcast in the negotiations with General Electric. Beyond operating profits, the show has little long-term value to the media giant; unlike a scripted drama, a talk show has negligible shelf life and zero foreign appeal.
Back in the last century, shortly after Leno began besting Letterman regularly in the ratings, I spent a few days following him around for a story on their rivalry for Vanity Fair. Unlike the press-averse Letterman—who grudgingly granted me 20 minutes of face time followed by an awkward phone interview—Leno let me sit in on rehearsals, attend the filming of a “Jay Walking” segment in the San Fernando Valley, invited me to his Beverly Hills home at 1 a.m. to watch him and his head writer cull through jokes for the next day’s monologue, and even solicited my (useless) opinion as to what was funny and what was not.







This is so fair and balanced it belongs on Fox News.
As a long time Leno fan I admire his guts to move to prime time. Since I am too old to be in the mainstream I have no idea what will work for him, but believe he has the talent and stamina to change the show to fit the available audience. Time will tell.
Great perspective. Letterman was ahead of Leno for a year and a half after the Carson retirement. Leno surged after the Hugh Grant interview and never looked back. It's only two months!
I loved Leno when he used to fill in for Carson. In fact, I enjoyed him more than I did Johnny. After tuning in to the first few Tonight Shows with Leno as the full-time host, I quit watching. He wasn't funny any more. I check in from time to time in hopes something has changed, but it hasn't. He's a dud. Seems like a great guy, but he's got nothing on Letterman as far as pure comedic talent goes.
Speaking of Letterman, I heard mention on local radio this morning of his recently discovered exploits hurting ratings. Funny thing...I had totally forgotten about them already.
Don't know which radio station you're listening to (does Fox do radio?) but every story googled up on the web shows Letterman's ratings going up apres scandal.
Agree on Leno tho-boring, dumb, lowest-common-denominator stuff. He should just show videos from 'Jay Leno's Garage'-now that's entertainment.
I'm glad Leno is getting the last laugh from somewhere because he hasn't gotten it from me. At 10:00pm I'm not ready to sack out on the couch while something painless drones on from the set - that's what the late night shows are for.
As long as Leno insists on not using the " TALK SHOW DESK " . . . He absolutely will fail.
A lot of people can't get past that awful doctor's office-waiting- room chit-chat seating arrangement.
"... Leno ... invited me to his Beverly Hills home at 1 a.m. to watch him and his head writer cull through jokes for the next day's monologue, and even solicited my (useless) opinion as to what was funny and what was not."
Grove shouldn't sell himself so short. I swear, Kevin Eubanks has the worst job in show business: he has to sit there and pretend that those jokes are funny every night.
Leno was not very funny or entertaining on the old show, and the new show is just more of the same. Not that Letterman is all that entertaining or funny either mind you. They are both talk show comedy dinosaurs, with stale jokes and absolutely no appeal to the majority of those of us under, I don't know, lets say 30 years old.
its funny that leno himself is being attacked when its so obvious this whole debacle was orchestrated by GE to lower it overhead for a quick sale. leno himself is as much a victim as the 10pm shows that were cancelled to accommodate his primetime show. does anyone really believe that nbc's new owner isn't going to go back to primetime programming with an eye on syndication revenue?
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Letterman isn't funny either, but then again who could be funny under such pressure every night? They try very hard to entertain us, sometimes they succeed and sometimes they don't. They do the best they can with what they've got. Jay got a rough deal at 10:00 p.m., a good drama or comedy would definitely be preferred in that time slot.
To me the answer was obvious and would have worked better. Move the Tonight show to 10--keep the format the same instead of this awkward mess they came up with. Then have Conan at 11:30 to do his old show--which was also better than what he offers now. Both of these guys are worse off for the changes made.
Love Jay Leno. I find him funny and relaxing. In the "olden days," only the nobility could afford a "jester." Now we have excellent comedy for free. I don't watch tv but I do watch tv shows on my computer (www.nbc.com) and never miss a Jay Leno show. With his new 10 pm slot, his entire show is funny and entertaining right to the end (except most musical guests). It's great fun --- great for relaxing, having a good laugh, and forgetting the pressures of the day. Go Leno!
Mavis?
Thank you.
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